31 comments on “Nakedness as a Metaphor in Scripture: Perspective

  1. Your blog is a hoot….and this was as revealing as I have seen it in discussions about this very topic. Your question to the pastor is just like the questioning in Greg Koukl’s book on Tactics…getting the other person to think about what they are really saying..you are a good apologist has anyone ever told you that?

    • Thank you, I appreciate that. No, I haven’t ever been told I’m a good apologist, but I have been told I’m a good debater. Happily, however, I don’t debate any more 🙂

  2. That’s an interesting thought about our human needs: to be “naked and unashamed” in front of another human being and feel safe and loved. I believe God sees us that way, though at times we try to “dress things up” even for Him.

    • Yes, I’d have to say that maybe we try to dress it up for Him, as though He didn’t know better… at least we seem to convince ourselves we are dressing it up 🙂

  3. “Don’t bother me with the truth because my mind is already made-up!!!” That is sad, and he calls himself a pastor? I have run into that attitude many times, and most recently from a missionary and from a pastor. The missionary said that I couldn’t be a Christian, and the pastor called me a debased-pervert who needs to get my heart right with God.

    “I don’t care what anybody says, being naked is a sin.” WOW! That sounds like a Pharisee talking.

    Blessings!

    Steve

    • To be completely fair, I think maybe there is a little “Pharisee” in all of us. The gentleman I mentioned, and probably your missionary and pastor, has served the Lord faithfully for many decades, has brought hope for eternal life to many, and has changed lives for Christ… and yet has his “blind spots” as we all do, and to be honest most Western Christians have difficulty with this particular concept.

      • Yes, you are quite right, and they believe that they are doing God a “favor” by defending that dogma. I used to be the same way, but I have changed, but only after I became willing to BE changed. We all have certain pieces of “theological-furniture” which we cling tenaciously to, which we have even “bolted-down”, and when someone challenges its place in our lives, we break out the “welder” and “weld” it in place. It is only when we allow the Holy Spirit to “rearrange” or even “remove and discard” some of that “furniture” will we be able to come to the TRUTH which sets us free.

  4. Does God even see if we have clothes on?

    Jeremiah went naked and was poor to depict the spiritual poverty of Israel. That is a different context.

    Your assumption and conclusion are just spot on.

  5. Random thought.
    The community that evolved though blogging night be considered to be naked. Who we are, what we do, what we look like, where we live, how we live, how we speak, our family and friends, our likes and dislikes are – in the main – out of sight. We come naked to this community. And yet …

    I have tried that same approach with one group here who met for the first time (and another who will tomorrow). That very focus not on “what do you do” but “why do you love the Lord” leaves all that “clothing” of the usual “this is me- who I am – what I am – what I do – where I peg myself on the groups hierarchy – where you should peg me on the group hierarchy” outside.

    And then the rest doesn’t matter. The connection of “skin to skin” has been made before the clothes and wardrobe are revealed.

    • Interesting thought Paul; I think you are right to a certain extent. As for the rest, I’m not sure, still considering…

      Here’s another random thought… and this might make for a fun discussion… When a poker player has his cards in his hand, he can bluff, for the identity of his cards is “out of sight”. He isn’t “naked” until the cards are on the table face up.

      What I find most amazing about the metaphor of “nakedness” is that it runs so deep.

      • I was going to say something along the lines of our Brother Paul about what the Lord has/is creating in our growing group and how many of us have vowed to remain “unmasked” or naked as it were. Then I started reading the other comments!! 😉

      • If and when God plays poker – then maybe. For me, a HUGE reason for fellowship and discipleship is simply this “hearing His will” in others. Being naked might be a real connection and run so deep, but more and more for me seems to be a group (rather than solo only) activity.

        Now there is a fun discussion! 🙂

  6. Thanks for posting this, Don! I hadn’t really considered it that way much before. It stands to reason that the whole point of the story of the garden in the beginning was that, being naked, Adam and Eve bared themselves body, mind, and soul. When they sinned, then they felt the shame that affected the entire dynamic of the shameless and limitless intimacy that they shared with The Father. The shame of the transgression tainted all that God had declared was good.
    Thanks again!
    Nikki

    • Excellent! You paraphrase well, Nikki. It makes sense why they were naked and unashamed in Genesis 2:25 (arowm) then naked and ashamed. It helps my exegesis better if the writer had then used “ervah” (haha) but I think it is still relevant. Your previous example in the word study for “ervah” Don, illustrates the difference well.

      I am very interested in this series. I also conducted a word study on “nakedness” but did not get any farther in answering my questions. Nakedness, as you have said, carries strong symbolism in the Bible, especially, I suspect, with salvation. But I could never discover exactly what it was. Perhaps it just wasn’t the right time to receive that revelation for me.

      I look forward to reading your series, Don, and even pick up my own study again. I probably should read your series before I as the question, but do you address nakedness in soteriology?

      • To a certain extent, yes, although I don’t set it up quite in that context. I’ll be interested in your comments on other parts, however you should know that this series followed one on the image of God and it’s significance which I haven’t put in a convenient tab, but you can easily find just by scrolling back a few days. I believe it began on Feb. 8 if memory serves me well.

  7. I know I commented on Brother Paul’s comment also but I wanted to let you know that I had a very similar experience in Globe, Arizona as an Associate Pastor. The only difference there is that the Senior “Pastor” as time went on had some really troubling ideas that he expressed from the pulpit. I had to pray several times for the Lord to release me from that ministry as I felt I was enabling him as I continued, until a day came when he was preaching something 180 degrees from truth in the Scriptures and it was that service where the Lord confirmed by His Spirit to myself AND Sue, my wife that it was time to go. Looking back at that situation and the time we devoted, it was one of those teaching times in our life when God was teaching us how NOT to be and He really opened up the Book of Jeremiah to me while I was there!

    Love your teaching Brother! I have enjoyed the ability the last couple of days to really dig in!! God bless you my friend!

  8. Very interesting. I think this has deep pastoral implications. Nakedness involves a deep level of vulnerability, openness, and trust, and that’s precisely what many believers struggle with. When they are Naked with God, they are ashamed. But that’s part of the curse that Jesus came to remove. Really good stuff, thank you.

  9. Being “naked” is to be vulnerable, whether physically, emotionally or spiritually. It means shedding that which hides our flaws and our imperfections. As we remove our disguises, we become more “real”, which makes many people feel uncomfortable because we prefer to hide behind our carefully-crafted masks of self-important social-status and all that goes with it. We can’t stand to be “known”.

    I had the opportunity yesterday to meet and visit with the new General Manager of the resort I minister in, and his first impression of the people there was how open and friendly they are. When we choose to be naked in community with other people, whether we live in a tent or a mansion, drive a “beater” or a Bentley, or are a ditch-digger or a doctor no longer matters. All those trappings of our social-status are left behind. We are human-beings being human, and our warts and flaws are all part of our humanity. We can never be any “more” when we are clothed than when we are naked.

  10. I often wondered from a man’s perspective, “What is so appealing about a woman’s breasts as opposed to a man’s breast?” What is it about the human anatomy that ignites lust for one another? Can you imagine driving down your street and all the houses have no walls to hide how they live? Those darned trees in the Garden.

    • John, I think that the sexuality of the feminine form is due in part to our western culture ( I am of course assuming you come from a western culture) and it’s God’s design. That is God’s design for sex in marriage. Love making is a gift from God (Proverbs 5:18-19) and for a husband to enjoy the sensuality of his wife’s form is a part of it. This is not lust, but God’s blessing. But the sexualization (as a negative thing pertaining to lust), I think, is in part a reactionary response to Victorian (maybe Puritan, I would have study that history) modesty, where sexuality was shameful and sinful. You see this in the liberation of the 20s into the 60s. And it is also in part due to human nature. Lust is as old as Eve in the garden, wanting something that’s not yours.

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