12 comments on “Paul Arrives in Ephesus

    • Do you think these men had received Christ and were born again? Or were they simply giving logical assent to what had been taught and were merely disciples or learners interested in the faith?

      • It’s hard to say for sure, since Luke wasn’t explicit about that. It’s possible that their understanding was on a logical basis only, and it’s also possible that they simply hadn’t been given all of the facts yet. Of course, there is also the possibility, especially in light of the next section and the parallels between chapter 19, 8 and 2 that God was making an unusual demonstration of His power in that region.

  1. Don, this is still quite confusing to me. Looking at the relevant verses (5-6) in the Greek translation, it says, “Upon hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul laid his hands on them the Holy Spirit came on them and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.”

    This reading tells me the baptism occurred “when Paul laid his hands on them” because there is an “and” before these words, and that the moment the name of Jesus was invoked the Holy Spirit came upon them. It appears there was no water involved, only the name of Jesus. (Well, “only” – you know what I mean.)

    Same thing with Peter’s baptizing. but he laid on hands and baptized “in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.”

    Am I reading this correctly or incorrectly?

    • First off, God can do whatever He wants.

      With that said, the problem your analysis may have is that it doesn’t account for “baptiso” which means “to immerse”. So, what were they immersed in?

      • I’m not trying to argue, simply understand. Immerse can mean “plunged into liquid.” It can also mean “to involve deeply; absorb.”

        John the Baptist said, “I will baptize you with water, but Jesus will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.”

        I’m simply getting from Paul’s account, since they were already baptized with water by John, that by invoking the name of Jesus two simultaneous things occurred: 1) they became deeply absorbed (abiding) in Jesus, and 2) the Holy Spirit immediately came to absorb (abide in) them.

        I don’t see anywhere else in the Bible where people were re-baptised; just that they declared their faith in Jesus either before or after water baptism. And during this process, they received (were baptized in) the Holy Spirit.

        • ‘Immerse can mean “plunged into liquid.” It can also mean “to involve deeply; absorb.”’

          While that is true in English, “baptiso” is Greek, and it isn’t true in Greek.

          Those men were not “re-baptized” for they had not been baptized into Christ, which is not the baptism of repentance done by John (John’s baptism), rather Christian baptism is the baptism of Salvation in Christ, and those men had never received it before.

  2. The Lord obviously has a good sense of humor… he does things however he likes, in whatever order he likes. People try to put him in a box (for their own convenience), but he doesn’t stay there! I was born again in 1972, received the baptism of the Holy Spirit in 1974, and water baptism many months after that. Confusing? Not to me any more, and certainly not to the Lord at any time. 🙂

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